Channel 9 reporter, veteran in debate over Anzac Day welcome to country


Footage has emerged of a veteran and Channel 9 reporter engaged in a charged conversation after a neo-Nazi led the booing of a Welcome to Country at a Dawn Service.

Nine’s Mark Santomartino and a veteran were filmed discussing the incident at Melbourne’s Anzac Day ceremony.

In the footage, the veteran can be heard to say “the reason why we’re here, is because our friends fought and died for this country, blood sweat and tears – like their ancestors did”.

He questioned whether it was “the right time and place” for a Welcome to Country.

“I have a lot of veteran mates that haven’t come today solely because of the Welcome to Country.

“Because our friends died for this country, for this soil – and for them to be welcomed is a slap in the face.”

Santomartino said he understood that some people might feel that way, but put to the veteran to boo “during a sacred ceremony is going to be seen by a lot of people as disrespectful”.

The man replied that Australians and the media needed to “tell the right story”.

“Yes it’s disrespectful, but these are the reasons why people are not agreeing with it,” the veteran said.

“Because it’s not the right time or place for it.”

Santomartino asked: “But not the right time or place for what?

“For both, for the welcome to country and for the booing. I agree with the whole service but the welcome to country and the booing,” the veteran replied.

“It’s not right to welcome veterans, World War Two … this is about all the people who have died for this country.

“For them to welcome us to this country is disrespectful.”

Neo-Nazi Jacob Hersant was seen being spoken to by police at the city’s flagship memorial service.

He was earlier seen in footage taken at the site talking to Santomartino saying the Welcome to Country “politicised” the event and “made it about white guilt”.

“This is about the Anzacs,” he said. “I can express my point of view to the public if I wish.”

He claims Australians were “scared of media pressure, scared of the government”.

Members of the crowd yell out that he is “racist” before the same veteran seen speaking with Santomartino in the other clip speaks up.

“I don’t agree, I don’t think he’s racist,” he says. “There’s a time and place for it. Is today the time and place? I don’t know.

“These people who fought and died, and bled for this country, to be welcomed on this day to me is not acceptable.”

The veteran is then seen to approach Santomartino before they walk off together.

It is not suggested the veteran holds any Nazi beliefs.

Barr unloads at hecklers

Sunrise host Natalie Barr savaged those who booed the Welcome to Country, saying the disruption at the Dawn Service was “disgusting”.

On Friday morning’s broadcast featured an interview with a woman who was present at the ceremony.

“I thought it was horrific to have those people here booing, I thought that was absolute disrespect,” she said.

Barr then said she agreed with the woman’s summary: “Yeah, exactly.

“We do not care what you are sick of. Today is not the day to share it.”

Booing at Dawn Service slammed

Political leaders have slammed the booing that disrupted an Indigenous elder’s Welcome to Country at an Anzac Day Dawn Service.

Melbourne’s Dawn Service was marred by booing from numerous attendees during Bunurong elder Uncle Mark Brown’s welcome ceremony.

It was quickly drowned out by others who applauded the recognition of First Nations custodians.

Victoria’s Premier Jacinta Allan slammed the “beyond disappointing” conduct.

“I strongly condemn the hateful disruption of this morning’s Dawn Service. A neo-Nazi disrupting this day is appalling – it has no place here,” she said in a statement.

“To pierce the sombre silence of The Dawn Service is more than disrespect – it dishonours all who have served, fought and fallen.

“And to boo the Aboriginal servicemen and women who served our nation shows ignorance, hatred and a complete lack of respect – for them and for everything Anzac Day stands for.”

It has been reported by 9 News that the heckling was led by a known neo-Nazi.

Victoria Police have confirmed a 26-year-old Kensington man was being investigated in connection with the incident.

He has since been interviewed by police and was directed to leave the Shrine of Rememberance. No charges have yet been laid.

Opposition Leader Peter Dutton also condemned the disruption while speaking on Today shortly after attending a Dawn Service in his Dickson electorate.

“Our Diggers fought against the Nazis. That this movement, the neo-Nazis, has any presence in our country at all is just an outrage and a disgrace,” he said during an appearance on Today.

“You look at the Nazi ideology, the deaths that it led to, the destruction – not just in Europe but across the world … that it could be glorified by Australians here shows that these people are mentally unwell.

“It should be condemned and police come down heavily on them. It just has no place in our community and our society whatsoever.”

Veterans’ Affairs Minister Matt Keogh shared a similar sentiment.

“We know now that that booing was led by someone who’s a known neo-Nazi,” he said.

“And frankly, when we come together to commemorate on Anzac Day, we’re commemorating some of those soldiers who fell in a war that was fought against that sort of hateful ideology,” Mr Keogh said.

“I’ve seen the public reporting of at least one of the names of one of the people that was involved in that and that person is known publicly for their engagement as in neo-Nazi activity in Australia.”

Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles slammed those involved as “idiots” disrupting the way Australians wanted to commemorate the “sacred day”.

“The sentiment that was on show here at the Shrine of Remembrance here in Melbourne was very much present,” he told Sky News.

“It was a beautiful service and a service befitting of all of those who have worn our nation’s uniform, and that is what I want to focus on.”

Another heated exchange broke out among members of the crowd gathered at the Australian War Memorial for the national Dawn Service.

An attendee was heard yelling out, “Free Palestine” following the playing of the Reveille.

Another person said in response: “Go kick a landmine”.

more to come.



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